Is your brain a machine? Are your thoughts and feelings just malware of the mind? But what is 'really' is a machine? In this episode, Eva meets with Kernel CEO Bryan Johnson and John hangs with writer Mark O'Connell to debate brain interfacing. Welcome to the transhumanist fight of the century.

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Featuring Founder and CEO of Kernel, Bryan Johnson. And writer Mark O'Connell, author of To Be a Machine.

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